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This is Servers.coop – we're making a recipe to set up a community server provider, and cooking up our own dog-food by offering Virtual Private Server space.

We'll be starting out on donated hardware, powered by renewable energy, in Ashton-under-Lyme in the UK.

We'll be launching a crowdfunding campaign shortly to make sure costs are covered for the first year – follow us on here, join our Matrix space matrix.to/#/!bDeUsKuqTQwBjBEAu , or look out for details of our upcoming e-mail list.

(PS thanks to Sunbeam.city for hosting us on here)

@serverscoop @pixouls community servers for mastodon servers? as in town/neighborhood/cities or community as in "r-lang data scientists" or "people that like emacs"

@emory we're hoping to be helpful for all of these situations.

"Springfield Server Collective" or "RLang Data Science Hosting" could use Servers.coop's tech/governance stack to start offering VPS hosting.

Existing community groups – wiki.cafe and sunbeam.city have expressed interest – could use one of those new hosting collectives, or use Servers.coop's upcoming hosting directly.

@serverscoop i did an ad hoc mastodon instance for checking it out and quickly realized i didn't enjoy configuring s3 and IAM for attachments and doing software updates i had that mastodon hosting system that dude hugo runs re-create `soc.kvet.ch` for me but i forgot to export my detail/account/follows 😂 started from 0 again.

@serverscoop so basically making it easy to set up a vps provider?

@powersource currently if a collective wants to offer VPSs to others, they have to either use proprietary software, or do shittons of manual work, or both.

Our theory is that if the path from "we found a server in a bin" / "we pooled our money and bought a secondhand server off the internet" to "people paying for VPSs" were shorter, then there would be a lot more ethical hosting options.

– 3wc

@serverscoop @powersource Hmm I guess you mean Ashton-under-Ly*n*e ? (Might be the 1st good thing to come out of Ashton in many years !) Hmm which bit do you think is missing for people to set up their own VPSs? The actual virtualisation is easy enough - so is it the management tying it to customers or what that you're aiming for?

@penguin42 nope, part of the project is to build a brand new, confusingly-similarly-named Ashton 😛 (it was a typo)

@penguin42 in terms of "what's missing", I wrote some stuff here: community.coops.tech/t/experim

From a hoster's perspective the main thing that seems to be missing is automation. E.g. OpenNebula is amazing but as far as I know at this point you still have to roll your own billing.

– 3wc

@serverscoop AH yeh, OK I can see the accounting integration and stuff needs doing; I wonder if you can integrate it with some existing open accounting/payment system. (I was thinking Odoo but I'm not sure if the Open version of that has everything needed)

@penguin42 I'm really interested to try Odoo, I haven't yet, I have heard that the open version is quite limited.

It looks like we'll be able to use Capsul for Servers.coop for the moment – we're putting in support for non-USD currencies, and might end up needing to add subscription (instead of prepaid credit) billing soon... but it's hard to resist something that goes all the way from "payment with Stripe" to "running VM", especially when it already uses a virt stack that a few of us are already familiar with.
–3wc

@serverscoop servers.coop: "Servers.coop is an algorithm for co-operation: a technical, governance, and cost-sharing stack which radically reduces the cost and complexity of setting up a server hosting provider."

So is servers.coop aimed at those setting up a server hosting provider rather than those setting up a server?

@underlap both!

If you're setting up a server hosting provider, you could use the Servers.coop tech or organisational recipes (or both!) to give you a head-start, and get help from the Servers.coop community.

If you're setting up a server, you can get ethical hosting:
1. Right now, from the Servers.coop coalition members Mediablaze¹ and Cyberia²
2. Very soon: from the upcoming Servers.coop Beta, hosted on donated hardware in Ashton-under-Lyne
3. Medium-term: from any one of a network of Servers.coop-aligned collectives.

– 3wc

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