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Poison Ivy: "When in the history of man have the rich been interested in helping their fellow man?"

Batman: -awkwardly clears his throat- "I'm right here, you know."

@InvaderXan @garbados The best part of the new Harley Quinn tv show is easily Lake Bell's vocal performance as Poison Ivy, and combined with the laid-back tone of the show it certainly leans into this interpretation of the character, ie. as clearly the most moral entity around.

"'Supervillain'? Actually, I identify as an 'Eco-Terrorist'."

@InvaderXan remind me again why Poison Ivy comics are named after (and focus so much on) the villain Batman?

@InvaderXan you don't own the building has the same energy as but where will you get the money

@InvaderXan It does get harder and harder to see Ivy as a villain. All she'd have to do is explicitly stop murdering and she'd be at worst an antihero.

@InvaderXan Also who wants to bet that the building in that frame is owned by Wayne Enterprises?

@offby1 @InvaderXan Naw of course not, it's owned by GothCorp*

*now a wholly owned subsidiary of Wayne Enterprises

@InvaderXan The more I think about this, the more I wonder how much, if any, critical writing has been done about the differences between Poison Ivy and the Punisher.

@offby1 I wonder this too, actually. Both are quite comfortable to use violence against adversaries who they believe to deserve it. The only difference is their reasoning. Considering how often she acts for nature and the planet itself (at least in later comic books), you could easily argue that her grasp of the bigger picture gives her a stronger moral compass than Punisher.

Though as always, it depends heavily on the writer!

@InvaderXan Of course it does; both can be portrayed on one or other side of that very fuzzy grey area. But it's interesting to me -- now that I've had the idea put in my head -- that the man's vengeful misanthropy makes him a hero while the woman's protective misanthropy makes her a villain.

I am, of course, simplifying the long history of each character significantly.

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Also such a fucking scathing indictment of Batman himself.

@pettter @InvaderXan right? "This will be beneficial for multiple scientific reasons"

"but property rights"

@solarpunkgnome @InvaderXan Not focusing the second Harley Quinn movie on Harley and Ivy was a mistake.

@InvaderXan @kensanata when she’s not being all murdery, Ivy is the hero we all need πŸ‘

(Every Batman that came after Adam West and Michael Keaton is a villain imho. Their decision to make Commissioner Gordon the hero in β€œGotham” was a good one)

@InvaderXan Counterintuitively, smog slows down climate change

But CO2 does speed it up

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