@teslas_moustache awesome :-)
This use to be installed by default on.debian
@teslas_moustache yup tho I'd stress the Ubuntu project is led by a corporation and the Debian project has a social contract, constitution, recallable roles etc.
@jackolas I am under no illusions about this.
@jackolas ...allusions? Whatever.
@teslas_moustache I think its the first one but not totally sure
@jackolas Uhh, right. I'm not under a false impression or ~illusion~ that Canonical/Ubuntu are anarchists, and Canonical may or may not make ~allusions~ to the idea that they are.
@teslas_moustache yeah the working relationship has gotten a bit better than it used to be. tho ubnutu totally flubbed the APT vuln advice earlier this year (they didn't tell anyone to actually disable the redirects for the upgrade to fix the vuln redirects lol)
@jackolas I want to use Debian because I agree with it more from a philosophical standpoint, but I also kinda want new stuff sometimes. But I'm on an LTS release of Ubuntu Mate, so maybe my tastes have changed.
@jackolas I also want to Libreboot an old Thinkpad eventually, so maybe I'll save my Debian install for that.
Not gonna fuck with Toshiba anymore.
@teslas_moustache there's a few approaches you can take to get the software you want, from using stable+backports, using testing, and or mixing with apt-pinning.
@teslas_moustache those are sort of in order of complexity and community approval/support
@teslas_moustache @kittybecca a bunch of folks even got it printed on t-shirts! At some point the anarchism package was controversial :) https://riseup.net/en/about-us/images#apt-get-install-anarchism
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