@scottishwobbly
Ok, this is a really really goos article amd everything written in here about the great terror is true, the death of the republic was at the hands of Robespierre and Saint Just. It's also VERY right about retribution

However, I will argue there is a difference between The Terror and terror, and the dark necessity of terror.

Socialists are bathed in the aesthetic of 'the great revolution', all of which goes back to the French revolution, and more generally 1792. However, this is not the only ever grand class changing revolution.

In 1791 another revolution happened, on the French colony of Saint Domingue, or as we now call it Haiti. In the Haitian revolution terror was key to securing and snowballing the uprising against slave owners. The rising against the masters was a bloody one of machetes, and burning down as much as possible to drive the whites away in any ways they could, not just for retribution but because the terror was so key in keeping what they had won

@scottishwobbly
And so, what happens what we cast aside the terror? First, lets look at 1871, the Paris Commune. Here it's highly relivant to point out, they lost. The Paris commune was destroyed, and a major part of that destruction was at it's own hands of revolutionary idealism. The communards refused to march on Versailles when they had the chance, they could have destroyed Thiers republic before it had gotten off the ground, but they refused until it was too late because they didn't want to provoke some large revolutionary conflict. They didn't want a general over turning of class in the world, but to self govern Paris under socialism, and part of this is that reluctance of terror, to not step on feet and just let be. Once the bloody week started, the Communards burned Paris in defiance, as an act of terror

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@CornishRepublicanArmy I'd like to clarify my stance isn't entirely aligned with the crimethincc article, I think terror and violence against the bourgeois state are necessary. But there's a tendency especially online to talk about "guillotining the rich" as though that's an end in itself or even remotely useful after the capitalists have been liquidated as a class. The guillotine is a tool for arranged execution, not direct fighting, also will read the rest when am done with work, excited :D

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