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Maybe ableist attitudes, capitalism and education 

We were talking about education just now. My wife was saying some of her general education teachers get suspicious of learning accommodations for students with disabilities. She says it levels the playing field. They say well isn't that grade inflation? What about the bell curve? She says why does there have to be one. Like the discussion becomes about the need to sort people into successful and unsuccessful. Good and bad. An easy life or one full of struggles. There's something they find alarming about accommodating everyone so that everyone can learn. It's as if education isn't designed for everyone to be successful, but to make sure everyone gets their "good or bad" designation

Maybe ableist attitudes, capitalism and education 

I was initially skeptical of Marxist Leninists who say education is all about reproducing class. Maybe college, I thought. But the way my wife explained these conversations, something is rotten for sure.

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Maybe ableist attitudes, capitalism and education 

@interneteh well i mean my high school had a college prep track or an 鈥渋ndustrial arts鈥 track and you definitely knew which program you were going to go into by middle school 鈽癸笍

Maybe ableist attitudes, capitalism and education 

@mood jeez.

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@interneteh My take? Think about how many centuries the concept of education has been twisted by exposure to and direct meddling from capitalism into a machine that produces usefully ignorant workers, and how often restricting education to the wealthy and empowered has been used to keep the working classes in line.

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@LexYeen @interneteh it doesnt need to be twisted, there wasnt a good version of it to start.

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@hope @interneteh Ehhh... I'd argue the basic idea of education, that of passing useful knowledge from the old to the young so that knowledge persists forward through multiple lifespans, is itself inherently good - but because knowledge is so literally power in so many ways, greedy and shortsighted people have historically leveraged that power in abusive ways. :blobyeengrin:

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@LexYeen @interneteh I didnt anywhere demean the idea of education. I just dont think there was an institution that was better and then deformed into the current state

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@LexYeen @interneteh though I do now see you said "the concept of education" which I see why youd respond as you did :)

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@hope @interneteh I do so desperately try to keep concepts and institutions separated in my mind - concepts can be remixed and adjusted way more easily, whereas institutions calcify and stagnate if not designed for routine maintenance and updates. 馃挋

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@LexYeen @interneteh im just now over here wondering if the concept of education was ever more egalitarian than it is now or not 馃槃

Maybe ableist attitudes, capitalism and education 

@interneteh standardized testing, and 鈥淚Q鈥 and 鈥渢he bell curve鈥 are explicitly the favourite things of eugenics movements. they put a scientific sounding gloss on classism and racism, and recasting disadvantage as a genetic attribute.

Maybe ableist attitudes, capitalism and education 

@interneteh it鈥檚 sad because the original intent is to identify kids who need extra help, but because humans are terrible, it鈥檚 always been misused to glamourise and promote kids who definitely do not need extra help.

Maybe ableist attitudes, capitalism and education 

@zensaiyuki yeah definitely

Maybe ableist attitudes, capitalism and education 

@interneteh I went into STEM after spending my high school years expecting to go into the arts, and there is not one single doubt in my mind that much of education and academia itself is predicated on the total reproduction of the class structure. STEM students are under immense, unrealistic pressure and constant unspoken (sometimes spoken) competition with peers. Classism/ableism/elitism become their 'outs,' their primary motivators.

Maybe ableist attitudes, capitalism and education 

@Colophonscrawl I was a liberal arts graduate (journalism). I hate the pressure that kids get put under. It's all I can do to shield my own kids from that.

Maybe ableist attitudes, capitalism and education 

@interneteh By 'outs' I mean that the reproduction of their structures within the worldview of academic and technical students allows them to justify the otherwise nonsensical conditions in which they find themselves during the course of their education. To the extent that they internalize it, it becomes "about making it" and shitting on art students to justify "their choice," rather than critical analysis of their conditions.

Maybe ableist attitudes, capitalism and education 

@interneteh i don鈥檛 have anything smart to say so I鈥檒l just say, that鈥檚 horrific and those people saying that should not be in charge of educating children.

Maybe ableist attitudes, capitalism and education 

@sweetmercury that's a perfectly smart thing to say

Maybe ableist attitudes, capitalism and education 

@interneteh The concept of meritocracy is a scam. If we take capitalism's justifications for itself at face value, then we have to ask why people who are "smarter" must be accommodated, not people who are "dumber," since, so the thought goes, the best among us will rise anyways, given a level playing field. To even necessitate metrics calls into question the idea of a level playing field, as if social supports could actually have use. Hmmm...

Maybe ableist attitudes, capitalism and education 

@Colophonscrawl this is really well put

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