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I hate this fuckin Youtube ad that begins with "plastics. Our most dangerous addiction." Yeah I'm addicted to making plastics with all those polyethylene factories I own and control.

I have fuckin zero to do with the amount of plastic that's currently streaming into stores and the environment. If all I did was buy Solo cups and throw them in the ocean, I still wouldn't do as much damage as one capitalist deciding his restaurant chain will use styrofoam cups.

I forget the quote or who said it, but yeah, humans' failure to understand the exponential function is killing us. We have exponentially less to do with the destruction of the environment than the capitalist class.

and the reason why so many people blame themselves or feel guilty when they toss an empty jar of peanut butter in the trash rather than wash it and recycle it is because we've been taught for years that this shit is on us as individuals, despite the fact we have less to no say in how business treats the environment.

I'm not saying we have zero impact. I'm saying our impact as individuals verges on statistical insignificance. But yes, I still recycle and I don't litter and shit. You know I compost. I won't stop talking about it.

If any of us did own and control petrochemical or plastic fabrication facilities, or could vote on whether the companies we worked for used plastics or other unsustainable materials that pollute our homes, do you think we would? Particularly if we already had all our basic needs met. Who would decide to pollute their own environment?

@interneteh Yeah I was grumbling about this earlier. This town only recycles a tiny fraction of the stuff that has that damn symbol stamped on it. Also Kroeger pushes out how-tos which say that if you don't both clean AND expunge every bit of labeling/glue off the damn container it's still *contaminated* and not recyclable. We spend our valuable time desperately cleaning the bed after self-congratulatory corporations shit it and feeling bad b/c we can't do it better. :/

@xenophora As I understand it, they just melt the plastic down. What does it matter if it has some shit in it? Filter it out. Ugh.

@interneteh

See also: 1970s PSAs from goddamn McDonald's singing that the youth of America should "Pick up... Clean up... it's ALL UP TO YOU!" At eight years old it didn't even occur to me how crassly cynical that was.

@interneteh

For sure. I'm a small piece of plastic compared to megacorp impact.

I do limit my impact as much as possible, though I'm not going to sweat the things I buy out of necessity that are compromised with plastic. I'm surrounded by a toxic environment (city + 'products')

Going forward with organizing people to push to change the legislation ON corporate regulation is the longterm solution I see. And that is the challenge of my life.

@interneteh

The ONLY REASON I would ever even HAVE plastic is *because* of megacorps.

I can't make plastic in my backyard. Or any of that isht

@Food If I could compost plastic, I'd be all about it.

@interneteh

One of my rules of thumb: if when you burn/melt it, what toxins are released, is an indicator of if I would want it near me or not

@interneteh

Theres some bioplastics that we as humans are fully capable of utilizing

its just the money speaks louder to humans trapped in a false idol belief system (capitalism moneygod) addicted to their symbolic value, than humans or the beauty of life on earth

@interneteh

Also I'm not going to justify my guilt of participation in plastics by saying it's OK.

It's not OK. And it wasn't my choice.

And I'm more OK with acknowledging the dissonance of being in a plastic world when I can acknowledge and work for the world I'd choose to live in: a plastic free world

@interneteh

Market forces, if listened to, are not capable or competent at addressing our ever expanding set of multigenerational challenges.

We really have to , at the very least, reset the machine

"Have you tried turning it off and on yet?"

Also would be helpful to have a diagnostics approach from a human level

@interneteh that's you? you're the one making all the plastic? come on man

@webhobo let's sieze the means of production and vote on how best to serve ourselves and our planet

@interneteh What’s the likelihood that’ll happen and that they will vote in that way?

@interneteh Plus, this solution would have to scale worldwide...

@webhobo would you vote to pollute your own area?