My opinion on The Rise of Skywalker 

The movie JJ Abrams has brought me today is worth... one quarter portion.

lessons from a star war 

THE FORCE AWAKENS: You never know what you're capable of until you try it. Don't wait for someone to come and save you โ€“ get out there and save yourself.

THE LAST JEDI: Anyone can be a hero, no matter who they are, even if they come from nothing. The true villain in the story is capitalism. Protecting others is a noble act.

THE RISE OF SKYWALKER: lol jk actually you only matter if you have the right parents. also all the main cast are like, totally definitely straight and we really want to make sure you know that

Show thread
Follow

more lessons from a star war 

THE FORCE AWAKENS: The belonging you seek is not behind you. It is ahead.

THE LAST JEDI: Let the past die. Kill it if you have to. That's the only way to become what you were meant to be.

THE RISE OF SKYWALKER: make everything a reference to something in the past and literally reanimate the dead instead of doing anything new lol

ยท ยท 2 ยท 10 ยท 19

more lessons from a star war 

@InvaderXan I dunno if "let the past die" was a message they were going for with TLJ, considering it was the villain saying that

more lessons from a star war 

@GreenandBlack @InvaderXan it's also the lesson Luke had to learn. He had to stop wallowing in his past failures and get on with fighting to save the future.

more lessons from a star war 

@GreenandBlack I do feel like not letting yourself be burdened by the ghosts of your past was still a major point of the story. You can find a similar message in the storylines of the other characters too. It's just that that one line from the villain was the moment when that point was most clearly spelled out.

more lessons from a star war 

@GreenandBlack @InvaderXan The villain may have said it, but the villain also is defined by idealizing the past Empire and Sith lords.

more lessons from a star war 

@bunnyjane @GreenandBlack Yeah, it was especially ironic coming from him. I quite liked that part.

re: more lessons from a star war 

@InvaderXan @bunnyjane @GreenandBlack kylo ren's self-contradictions were really interesting in the last jedi... like i really feel like they portrayed his internal conflicts really sympathetically while still making him ultimately unlikable, which was great

shame the rise of skywalker kind of trampled all over that, as it did with much of the narrative work done in tlj

re: more lessons from a star war 

@hoppet @bunnyjane @GreenandBlack Yeah, TLJ did a great job of that. He was a good villain because you both disliked him and pitied him at the same time. It also did a good job of showing how much dissonance his mentality could contain. You're right, it was very interesting!

more lessons from a star war 

@InvaderXan Corporations will bleed artistic works dry and generally we seem to let them

more lessons from a star war 

@dualhammers I'm not sure how much this was about corporations, considering how much I enjoyed the first two. I think it was largely down to poor writing, which seems to be a recurring theme in popular stories.

That said, it's undeniable that corporate meddling has ruined a lot of good movies. The Hobbit being a prime example.

more lessons from a star war 

@InvaderXan I still count capitalism as the problem because there are basically 100,000 star wars fans on here I'd have trusted more to write those scripts (which I disliked) than Rian Johnson and JJ Abrams. They get to write then because capitalism, because they're sure profit bets, not because they're the right person for the job.

And I guarantee you there were tons of studio notes involving brand appeal and blab blah

more lessons from a star war 

@dualhammers Capitalism is a problem in other ways too, I think. It's the reason we don't get so many original stories anymore. Instead, there's an overabundance of "safe bets". Remakes, reboots, sequels, prequels. Ironically, they're very often far less enjoyable, and worse received, than the original stories which are still made.

And yes, the new Star Wars trilogy leaned a bit too heavily on nostalgia. That's why I liked Episode VIII, in fairness. It was different. Like him or hate him, Rian Johnson tried very hard to move away from repeating the same stories and giving us pure nostalgia fodder.

Unfortunately, nostalgia fodder is exactly what JJ Abrams' best known movies are all about.

more lessons from a star war 

@InvaderXan yeah, I think a big reason episode VIII feels like a mess to me is that Rian did try to genuinely do something different and the studio was like "NOOOO" and the whole film (to me) feels like a fight between two entirely different visions

more lessons from a star war 

@dualhammers Yeah, I can see that. The irony isn't lost either that a large section of that movie was literally just a criticism of capitalism.

more lessons from a star war 

@InvaderXan Have you read Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism? If not, I think you'd enjoy it.

more lessons from a star war 

@dualhammers No I haven't. Thanks for the recommendation!

Sign in to participate in the conversation
Sunbeam City ๐ŸŒป

Sunbeam City is a Libertarian Socialist solarpunk instance. It is ran democratically by a cooperative of like-minded individuals.