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When you think about it, calling them TERFs is giving them way more credit than they deserve. They're actively antifeminist, and upholding well established, outdated gender norms is probably the least radical thing you can do.

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@InvaderXan I've always liked the alternative of

Feminism-
Appropriating
Reactionary
Transphobes

or, "FART."

@Alexis @InvaderXan considering I just saw a TERF that determined femininity based on one's pooping habits, this is an accurate acronym

@GreenandBlack @InvaderXan Honestly, if TERFism (FARTism?) wasn't so harmful and, well, shit, it might all be very funny.

@GreenandBlack @Alexis Wow, just when I thought I couldn't be more appalled by their ridiculous beliefs 🀨

TERF/FART nonsense 

@StroomAfwaarts @GreenandBlack @InvaderXan This would probably have been someone else, but I've definitely seen idiots argue that "women don't poop at home," or "women don't poop around their husbands," that kind of archaic nonsense. It's not hard to extrapolate that into something horrible.

TERF/FART nonsense 

@Alexis @GreenandBlack @InvaderXan
wow. I poop with the door open, so I can keep talking.
the only pooping-while-feminine thing I've heard is the concern of feminine people that they poop while giving birth.
don't know any masculines who worry about that, but maybe they do to.

@InvaderXan I just keep getting told that that's not what this radical means and I'm like πŸ€·β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦

@maloki I am curious about why they believe upholding the patriarchy is radical. But I find it hard to actually talk to them without retching, so I guess this will remain a mystery to me!

@InvaderXan there's some other weird definition of radical, but I can't for the life of me remember what.

But disregarding that, they are neither radical nor feminist and it shows. πŸ˜…

@maloki "Pertaining to the basic or intrinsic nature of something" perhaps. Though that's ironic too, considering their ideas of the intrinsic nature of sex and gender are literally all social constructs.

Yeah. It *really* shows.

@InvaderXan @maloki Someone pointed out recently, and I just popped away to confirm, that estimates for occurrence of intersex phenotypes and green eyes are both ~2% globally. So taking intersex alone, much less the wider variation in identity, this naturalist-fallacy stuff doesn't hold up even trivially. FART opinions are just so much hot air.

@maloki @InvaderXan I think the one I heard Mads Viande say was "radical, as in relating to the radix, the root - radical feminism posits that patriarchy is the root of all oppression" or something like that? I don't remember exactly :(

@restioson @maloki Ok, that's just a ridiculous usage of the word. Which galaxybrain came up with that?

@InvaderXan @maloki I mean, it's not as though terfs are in the business of honesty. To be clear I think what Mads was saying is thats what *they* think they're doing... doesn't make them right though

@InvaderXan @maloki which is also the conclusion of many branches of the entire thread lol

TERF shite 

@InvaderXan Also, in the UK, most of the people who are the sort of "thought leaders" of TERF's are the whack liberals who all the Marxist and Anarchist feminists split away from back in the day because they were not willing to be intersectional.

adult toys 

@InvaderXan
my modern, hip, feminist aunt: "I think every modern woman should have a vibrator in her night stand"
me, 14: "I think every modern woman should decide for herself what she has in her night stand".

nothing has changed much in those years. Lots of "feminists" still want to prescribe other people's actions and attitudes.
I think feminism is about freedom and choices. If you want to marry and be a stay at home mom for eight children, that should be okay. as long as it's your own choice, informed or emotional.

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