the reason this logic is so accepted is because we've been sold a pack of lies that this is the norm or natural when the reality is that mostpeople throughout history and pre-history actually spent less hours labouring than us (generally speaking) and this very particular configuration we live under is not universal and is only one of many possible ways of doing things
i think the most powerful way to convert someone from centrism to being a leftist is making them realise that the current way of doing things (everybody has to work for a living and we have to work for wages and 40+ hours a week) is not the only way of doing things and our attitude towards work is not precedented in history or necessitated by economics - and i think it's actually surprisingly easy
Agree, people think capitalism is the only possiblilty, and that needs to be attacked directly.
Also rent. Why should one person be able to 'own' according to the state, two houses, and charge someone who has no house to live in one of them? Humans hate rent, and rentiers.
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@cocoron it's funny you're talking about this today. I just finished a therapy session where I had to come to terms with having to "get back on the grind" again. I'm struggling not to crumble under the pressure I've put on myself and I'm constantly having to work against a defeatist perspective. I have no choice but to participate in something that goes against everything I live for. My radicalization, my work to become a more complete person, and finally having a loving and supportive partner, have all made it so much more difficult to live the reality I must in order to provide for my loved ones.
@cocoron i think those labels are a 20century thinking. we need new ones. or no labels at all. lets just call it being smart
@cocoron or actually, anti-globalist. because it is those people that force those things upon us, they also force the left-right think upon us. So dropping that would make us free. maybe an even more acurate term would be to convert someone from a centrist(which is a pro status quo) to a freedom-ist or free thinker
Yes..most people understand that there is a problem..but it is tough to make realize that there is a possible solution.
@cocoron whenever i ask somebody how long they think people worked 500+ years ago, they say stuff like "seventeen hours a day!"
yeah. for one week a year. at peak harvest season.
like, do you know how much "work" a goat shepherd does? they sit under a tree most of the day, smoking and reading!
it's almost the same amount of work people do in their office jobs, except it's more sensible, and less stressful because there's no manager they have to fake "progress" to
@meena I really like this reasoning.
Unfortunately my already way to capitalism indoctrinated brain jumps to farmers who were working way more each day than a goat shephard. Probably from before dusk till after dawn. How does that fit? 🤔
and how often?
@meena every day, 7 days a week? At least if they had a lot of animals to tend to.🤔
Or is the „farmers work/ed sooo hard, boohoo you city snowflakes with your 9-to-5-jobs“ propaganda just... propaganda?
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