We'd never need to buy paper if we pulped and recycled junk mail and receipts. We'd never need to buy dirt if we composted all our food waste. We'd never need to buy anything made of plastic or aluminum if we melted and molded them ourselves. We'd need to buy much less wood if we collected all the discarded pallets
@socalledunitedstates the amount of food that we get from supermarkets that would otherwise throw it out is why I want every solarpunk to be involved in Food Not Bombs
There's someone in the episode saying that they don't donate food that's past its arbitrary expiration date because they're scared of being sued for donating spoiled food.
@socalledunitedstates you know how many massive aircraft junkyards just sitting abandoned in the open there are in your country? so fucking jealous
@socalledunitedstates https://www.urbanghostsmedia.com/2012/03/the-o-an-innovative-means-of-exploring-abandoned-railways/ also found this while digging for aircraft junkyards
@socalledunitedstates the problem with trying to salvage aluminum foil is that often (at least how i use it, anyway) it has baked-on food, and trying to clean that without absolutely destroying it is a challenge
@starrycosmos I was referring to cans!
@socalledunitedstates ohh, i forgot those are aluminum too. carry on, then 😅
Unfortunately there are economies of scale involved in such labour, and it's really hard to reconcile with e.g. wage slavery under crapitalism.
I am relatively privileged, but I lack a dry space in which to store old pallets until I need them; I am only composting food waste because the council takes it away (to keep it out of landfill), because rats are *endemic* here (we lost lots of our tomatoes to them last summer too); I certainly don't have time, space, energy or skill enough to start cutting up plastics to use in a 3D printer, or making my own paper. I can't even keep on top of my laundry pile.
@socalledunitedstates Like, you aren't wrong, but this stuff is hard.
@artsyhonker Oh no no, you misunderstand me. I don't want every individual to do all of these things at once and start something like an urban homestead. I want community institutions and sharing economies to form, where different people take different jobs and share the abundance with each other. That and coops
Okay, that helps.
@socalledunitedstates i read once that wooden pallets are the most valuable object in the entire world, based on pure usefulness
@socalledunitedstates my OH was talking about this yesterday. He is into 3D printing, which is just starting to work on a home scale with recycled materials, and he sees a day when you can put an empty plastic bottle in at the beginning, and see it transformed into a new object. Kind of like the replicators on Star Trek :)
@socalledunitedstates Pallets are good sources of wood, but they're also items that have standards of size and condition. There used to be places that bought & sold them exclusively, even repairing damaged ones. If you get whole standard shipping pallets they're likely to be happy to swap a good one for the wood of several broken ones (if you're after firewood anyway).
@CoronaCoreanici I need an author, just searching "walkways" isn't giving me anything
Unless you mean Walkaway by Cory Doctorow in which case, no but it's on my reading list
@socalledunitedstates Apologies, haven't been feeling well for the last little while! Yeah, Doctorow.
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