I'll be shutting SBC down in 48 hours unless someone comes forward to take over all the roles / responsibilities I currently hold. It's hard for me to say, but I'm done with this.

@puffinus_puffinus I know y'all's wiki has some unique content, is there currently someone responsible for archiving it or someone responsible for finding someone to be responsible for archiving it?

@emsenn @puffinus_puffinus I'm the wiki admin, I can probably archive it on my pc real quick until there's an alternative place to put it all

@GreenandBlack oh word. I'll be honest I don't know what all stuff y'all have across your services, I just know sometimes I get linked to a page here or there and it's like "this is information I have never seen elsewhere!"

And it'd be cool to save at least the highlights of that.

What gets lost? Well, teaches folk not to rely on a microblog for permanent data storage! @puffinus_puffinus

@emsenn @puffinus_puffinus any specific stuff you want me to make sure gets saved? I put a lot of time into the politics section, and can thank Lucy for helping out with the leftcom stuff

@GreenandBlack I remember being most hype at the pragmatic stuff like y'all had a windmill made with a bike wheel? But maybe that wasn't a sunbeam original. @puffinus_puffinus

@emsenn @GreenandBlack @puffinus_puffinus It wasn't, that's from Open Source Low Tech. I added that one

I haven't looked at it in a while but I don't recall anything substantial that was truly unique

@f0x @GreenandBlack @emsenn @puffinus_puffinus don’t mean to butt in here, but i think there is also a way to download an entire site using wget on the command line- and it’s something anybody can do, and could possibly make sure the backups are decentralized:
@f0x @GreenandBlack @emsenn @puffinus_puffinus the command would be like

--execute robots=off

@cb @GreenandBlack @puffinus_puffinus @f0x @emsenn while this works, i think a proper export is probably best. or at least add --wait flag so you dont bombard the site with requests

@puffinus_puffinus sorry it had to end this way. Hope this doesn't demoralize you from continuing your journey

@puffinus_puffinus sorry to hear that, but entirely understandable :< there are so many interesting people here, it's been a really cool instance despite the drama 💔

@puffinus_puffinus That's so sad to hear. I'm only tangentially aware of what's going on over there but I guess I just want to affirm that taking care of yourself is always the right thing.

@puffinus_puffinus am starting to think closing down SBC might be best overall :(

@GwenfarsGarden @puffinus_puffinus I think the problem here is a lack of education for mods. We need to draft some type of course or something.

@RadioAngel @GwenfarsGarden @puffinus_puffinus there is a larger problem. Nothing incentives conflict resolution and peer mediation here. The default is always to burn it down and run away.

@RadioAngel @GwenfarsGarden @puffinus_puffinus when is the last time you saw comradely behaviour here? Tearing people down has become the bonding ritual. People need a project to bond over.

@zzz @GwenfarsGarden @puffinus_puffinus I've seen it. It's what's kept me here for so long. It's just more subtle than the explosive things that happen.

@RadioAngel @zzz @puffinus_puffinus yeh, but people can only take so much. I've only been at the edges of things the last few days, but it's put my stress level through the roof and my health cannot take it.

Maybe someone could take over the instance, but strip it back with just one person managing it and closing the co-op for now?

@GwenfarsGarden @zzz @puffinus_puffinus

I wouldn't even know where to start and I don't have the time. Otherwise I'd do it. :(

@GwenfarsGarden @RadioAngel @puffinus_puffinus who would at this point? Who has the iron skin to deal with the current situation? I got the time but not the right reputation.

@puffinus_puffinus I was saying something about not burning everything down some time ago and I didn't change my opinion

@puffinus_puffinus I'm sorry to hear that it's come to this. You are a good person who does not deserve all this hassle. Take care of yourself and I'm here if you want to chat.

@puffinus_puffinus I'm so sorry it's come to this. I think there's been a lot of conflict on here that's mostly passed me by?

I'd be happy to take on a moderator role/help in other ways but not to take on your whole role. And I am guessing many others feel the same.

@puffinus_puffinus (By the way, that toot wasn't asking you in any way to explain what's happened to me. Just saying I have missed most of what went on but I still sympathise with you and the mods trying to resolve the conflict and keep it all going.)

@puffinus_puffinus just wanted to thankyou for the effort you've put in since taking over :ancomheart:

@puffinus_puffinus what would taking over entail?

If I were to take over, would I "inherit" the current server that's running it?

Is there a plan for domain transfer? Is that easy to change payer/owner of?

@zatnosk you'd need an account on open collective for doing stuff with money. You'd need an account here, with admin status. You'd need an account with kimsufi, our host, and godaddy for the domain possibly more

@liaizon is also interested

@puffinus_puffinus @zatnosk happy to help figure this out together, can we move to a more focused channel? does everyone have marrix/riot?

@puffinus_puffinus @liaizon I don't have either right now, but I could get it up tomorrow, if necessary.

I'll say already, though, that I'm very inclined to bow out in favor of wakest, if you're decide to take the burden :)

@puffinus_puffinus thanks for all the work you've put into SBC. I'm sorry it's come to this 💚

@puffinus_puffinus thanks for all the work you've put in to run SBC. please take care of yourself

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