Hi! I'm K4.
I took up hobby gardening and amateur botany as a way to put my open-source software job down sometimes... until I noticed that those things could go together in new and interesting ways. I've been building an open, highly-queryable plant/growing database that anyone can edit or help curate. Nothing really to show off yet (I'm up to my eyeballs in initial data imports rn), but there is a blog up at blog.plantdata.io with project updates.
/me waves enthusiastically
@K4_713 Ooh! I am all over something like this. 💚
Let me know if there's anything I can do to help!
@adeptomega Thanks! And yes, there's definitely a *lot* to do in a variety of categories. Are you familiar with the wikidata project/way of handling structured data? Not by any means a requirement, though it will probably help a lot at this stage.
@K4_713 My exposure to the wikidata project has been very limited unfortunately.
I wound up doing a lot of work in statistical programming languages off of my research job (R in particular; learned some SPSS, some Python for generating dummy data). Any experience beyond that has been voluntary online coursework or a lot of the hobby programming I did as a teenager.
I enjoy learning however and will be happy to learn new systems for a community project.
@adeptomega ah, cool!
My main focus with the project right now is getting a small set of example data in the system in a way that makes sense, so I can show people what the base system is capable of and expose data to play with. Then, there will be a few larger categories of work: Probably adding/editing data (manually and in large imports) , designing/building a nice set of front-end search tools and visualizations, writing APIs for automated systems, and... whatever else sounds good. 😁
@K4_713 Cool! Well, if at any point you need extra hands in the process, let me know, alright? :]
@K4_713 super interested in this
@cocoron @solarbear I'm sure there will be critical data in plant encyclopedias! Certain categories of plant data seem to come up much more readily in books. For instance: Companion planting. Good and bad companion plant information like that seems to have been largely ignored by people who like to build free plant databases.
@K4_713 What sort of data does it contain? Nutrient and light needs per species via API would be *spectacular* for automated hydroponics.
@phryk Funny enough, writing a few APIs for automated systems was something I've had in mind from the beginning. My current thinking about what specific data I want to keep, for both humans and machines, is on this trello board: https://trello.com/b/PhjXjlQg/data-modeling
Let me know if there's anything that would be helpful to have, that I missed. One great thing about the system I'm using (wikibase) is that it's incredibly flexible when it comes to adding new data associations.
@K4_713 that's great! Nice to have you here
@K4_713 Welcome! This sounds super interesting, hope I can contribute some data once it's up and running!
@K4_713 I also took up gardening as a break from software and I'm interested in this project.
@brainwane Sumana! Long time no type! Yeah, I've looked at growstuff.org a little. There's definitely a lot of overlap, but their approach seems to be rooted(<--ha) in user data and individual experiences with plants, and I *think* that's probably going to remain adjacent territory, project-wise...
Nice to see you around!
@K4_713 Oh hi it's YOU! Glad to see you. Thanks for the kind reply!
I spent a long time looking at the classification of plants and online data repositories a few years back.
You seen practicalplants.org ?
Its a jazzed up mediawiki and does some interesting stuff
@dazinism Ah! I think I had sort of brushed up against practicalplants.org at some point, but I clearly didn't look at it hard enough. Cool stuff! Didn't realize it was mediawiki.
Yeah it does some neat stuff with the data, kind of what it sounded like you were thinking about?
Its sadly been a bit neglected lately, think the wiki aspect makes it extra valuable (anyone can jump in and add info).
The dev behind it is v. nice/friendly. Also clearly talented.
Sure they would be most happy if more stuff started happening there.
@dazinism Oh yeah, I definitely had started getting some very basic stuff going on via Wikibase, with the idea that: Yes, openly curating is clearly the way to go. It was also a great excuse for me to finally dig in to Wikibase. That stuff definitely has quite the learning curve...
I wonder how practicalplants is storing their data. I think I'll go ask.
Just saw this and thought of you.
@dazinism Cool! I am going to keep an eye on this. Also, I suspect "My potato should ideally be compatible with your potato" will be the best thing I read all day today.
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