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You might be an Internet Ancient if you: 

• remember Netscape Navigator

• ever used any modem with a bandwidth of 28,8 or lower

• had an Early Adopter account on Livejournal

• witnessed the rise and fall of PhPBB

• witnessed the rise and fall of Napster

• used the web before Google existed

• ever used a dialup BBS site

• remember Gopher

• ever downloaded music as .mod files

• remember when about 90% of the web was made up of personal sites which were "under construction" and had pictures of people's cats on them

• remember when Yahoo was literally just a big list of websites

• know IRC commands

• have heard anyone unironically use the phrase "information superhighway"

• can recognise different bandwidth modems by what bleepy handshake sound they make

• have ever received one of those chain e-mails where you have to scroll through about a kilometre of forwarded headers only to find a "hilarious" vaguely lewd image and/or a banal list like this one

Google was founded in 1998. By the internet calendar, this is the year 0.

Years prior to this are known as BG, or Before Google. Years afterwards are known as AV, or Anno Vendi (which probably means something like Year of Advertising in Latin).

Humans went to the moon in the year 29 BG.

The code for Mastodon was first released in the year 18 AV.

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@InvaderXan hmm I guess I'm internet not quite that ancient, yes to some of these but a bit late/unaware at the time for others (like I joined LJ a little after the early adopter phase but had irl friends who were there then)

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@InvaderXan Yes to all. 👴

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@claudiom Impressive!

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@InvaderXan Some, like IRC, I learned much later since I didn't have any reason to connect to IRC, though I knew of it in the 90s. I did access Gopher through SEFLIN Freenet back in the early 90s. And I think I downloaded a few .mod files but that was rare for me. Did that last one out of curiosity.

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@InvaderXan My bad, it's actually all but one. I never had a LiveJournal account. Missed that one in the list. 😊

@aza_leah @InvaderXan also, 1st of January is now the day after google was established. So it's skewed in our calendar

@InvaderXan I take this as a joke, and that you don't really wish to deify Google.

@InvaderXan and this just proves technological progression isn't a straight line. We should have gone to the fediverse BEFORE the moon smh it's screwing up all my graphs and curves dammit

@InvaderXan I prefer to think of it as the 8199th day of the Eternal September.

@InvaderXan I would say it'd be more accurate to set Year 0 as starting on March 12, 1989, which was when the web started to be a thing, and that was and still is the internet's "killer app"

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@InvaderXan calling me tf out with these

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@elfi 😂

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@InvaderXan Yes to all but one. Livejournal was a blogging platform, no?

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@loke Yes. And I believe it actually predates the word "blog" too!

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@loke @InvaderXan Livejournal was my lacuna too; i think i peaked a bit too early for LJ - i remember when NCSA Mosaic was the standard in browsing and Netscape Navigator was the hot new thing that was going to replace it... not that i was all that convinced by this new fangled WWW thing at the time. i didn't think it would ever be a decent replacement for USEnet and gopher

i was half right ;-)

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@thamesynne @loke @InvaderXan Yes, I remember seeing Mosaic for the first time, after waiting for about 10 minutes, and I said it's pretty, but I don't really see the point.
I was sad when I had to give up using Pine for email in 2012. Sometimes I still miss it.

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@aderieg @loke @InvaderXan i never got on with pine - but when i found elm on the Solaris machines at uni, i knew i was home. ditto tin, for news. sadly neither transitioned entirely successfully away from the UUCP model, so that was that :-(

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@thamesynne @aderieg @InvaderXan Pine works fine with IMAP though. I still use it for one account.

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@loke @thamesynne @InvaderXan Thanks, I will look into that.

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@InvaderXan @claudiom now I feel old

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@glenda I prefer to think of it as "wise in my Internet years". 😁 @InvaderXan

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@claudiom @glenda Long in the Bluetooth

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@InvaderXan @claudiom @glenda
Of course if anyone is an Internet Ancient Bluetooth is a mere toddler.

*creaky old voice* Or did you mean Harald Bluetooth? He got me my first abacus....

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@Momerath @InvaderXan @claudiom @glenda Not sure if the Barbarians roaming Europe that time knew of the abacus.

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@carl @InvaderXan @claudiom @glenda
Pah. A mere bagatelle. Obviously they learned of the abacus from Marco Polo. ;')

More likely, the Scandanavians did something that combined runes and (extrapolating from what little I know about cultures with a strong oral tradition) mental math.

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@Momerath @InvaderXan @claudiom @glenda
"mental math". Aha.

Mathematics 

@carl @InvaderXan @claudiom @glenda

I went to school before pocket calculators were cheap so I learned how to do math on paper. I also learned my multiplication tables up to 12x12.

A few years ago I was teaching a class and mentioned the answer for some math. One of my students was astounded that I did it in my head.

I'm sure someone who had to do math from a culture with an oral tradition would calculate circles around me.

My best advantage over many early civilizations: zero.

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@InvaderXan

This is the graphic they left on Napster when it was taken down.

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@vandys This is so sad...

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@InvaderXan @maloki all of the above. I used IRC back in 1991. And I remember being envious of folks with a SLIP connection, back before PPP became a thing. Oh how I wanted to be able to send email or post to Usenet while downloading a file! (Via FTP of course.) plus being able to display *graphics*! Via X Windows!

Heck, being able to use FTP without needing to download it to my shell account and then Kermit it home would have been nice.

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@InvaderXan @maloki of course, in retrospect, doing all that on a 2400 baud modem probably wouldn’t have worked all that well.

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@fluffy @InvaderXan @maloki We seem to be of the same Internet generation. The first modem I used to connect to an internet-connected service was 1200 baud.

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@gcupc @fluffy @InvaderXan @maloki Internet Ancient staking claim on 300 baud, long before Web :)

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@gcupc @fluffy @InvaderXan @maloki And I dearly miss usenet, before it became unmanageable due to spambots.

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@naga @gcupc @fluffy @InvaderXan @maloki I've tentatively identified Reddit as the closest modern analog of Usenet.

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@Momerath @gcupc @fluffy @InvaderXan @maloki That's probably fair, but I *really* miss having a choice of clients.

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@naga @gcupc @fluffy @InvaderXan @maloki I've forgotten all that because my first two exposures to Usenet were on systems that basically had a built in client.

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@naga @gcupc @InvaderXan @maloki my first modem was 300 baud on a C64 but I didn’t use it much except to connect to a couple local BBSes

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@fluffy @gcupc @InvaderXan @maloki To be fair, that's most of what was there to connect to in 300baud days, unless you were at one of a select few universities.

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@gcupc @fluffy @InvaderXan @maloki I'm somewhere in that ballpark - at least I was first online in January 1992. But I didn't own a computer that year; it was as an Antioch co-op student at an oceanographic observatory, on a SUN workstation.

Whatever the connection, I don't recall a modem and the speed was ample for Usenet.

Later, when I bought my next computer, I had a 4800 baud modem.

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@fluffy I high key miss internet access with a shell account included. Like, that should still be a thing.

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@BalooUriza I feel like that became less necessary as people switched from shell dialup to PPP, and later got more bandwidth available. Shell accounts are still handy for stuff but there's not a lot you can do with them that you don't get by just installing WSL or being on a UNIXy environment in the first place.

I think the main neat thing about them was the shared-resource camaraderie with fellow users, and tilde.club is great for that.

@fluffy Most PPP providers, before they got borged by the likes of OneMain, Earthlink, etc. usually provided shell access because it was literally easier to set up and maintain just letting the OS do it's job than reinvent the wheel.

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@InvaderXan I still miss Netscape Navigator. Those collapsing menu bars were so nice!

@InvaderXan
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(Get: Mithril Sword of ARPANET.)

Safe journey upon your quest!

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@InvaderXan if we're 40% ancient does that mean we're internet middle-aged?

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@starfall Ehh, sure, why not? 😂

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@InvaderXan ah, the old information supercliche - I do remember an advert using this term, unironically Netscape. Chain emails. Modems. So I guess I'm a bit ancient :)

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@InvaderXan

· Used a map like this one to poke around the net: mercury.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/

(I was dialled into the TIMP at University College London (square labelled LONDON, bottom right) with a 1200 baud modem from Imperial College London.)

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